In conversation with Chi Eziefula
Ever since that very first COVID-19 patient in the UK, I have been very busy. An interview with Chi
What has it been like as an infectious diseases clinician stepping in the middle of this pandemic?
It’s been an extraordinary time. We’ve had quite a revolution in the way we run our services at the hospital as a result of our response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The first thing that was relevant to my experience, is that we had the very first case in the UK and so it was a patient in our catchment area that was the first to be diagnosed with COVID in the UK. That was quite remarkable, and it was very busy trying to work out all the contacts for that patient and how we deal with it and how we handle the infection risk to anyone in contact with the patient. That patient was then sent to London but then gradually there started to be more cases in the community. Ever since that very first patient, I have been very busy.
For me the clinical service has got busier in that we have increased the number of doctors covering this service, so we have been doing more shifts than normal. On a personal level, everyone has had problems to solve and questions about infection risk and how they should go about their day to day activities so it’s been a real point of giving lots of people information on a formal and informal basis so quite round the clock actually, lots of WhatsApp messages at 11pm, friends or connections lots of emails, with questions from people asking how to manage their businesses etc so it’s been personal and work based, personal and professional.
Then there has been the work itself, it’s been very interesting having not just to learn about something but do it at the same time and put things in place, it matters immediately how we decide to go forward. We really restructured the way the hospital works so that almost every aspect of our work we changed in order to respond to the pandemic, which patients come into the hospital, where we discharge patients to, where patients are seen in the hospital.
Were you taking these decisions at a local level with Brighton and Sussex Community hospital or at an East Sussex level or were you in co-ordination at a national level, how did it work?
All of those actually. We did a lot of local based changes, it was really impressive how people stepped up to leadership and team work. I must say was really fantastic, to make these very drastic changes even if someone had to have a blood test, we had to determine where their blood would go, to which lab and how it would be dealt with when the sample was finished with just every level of care and whether or not operations should go ahead and even how the teams were structured so that we did locally. But there was also a layer of central or national decision making, which for better or worse, when decisions are being made in one place and being actioned elsewhere then it depends on how well it fits to the local circumstance but there was definitely a lot of central decision making and we also got together as a region, so all of those really.
Do you feel that after that period of rapid adaption of practice that now, should there be a second wave, or should more patients come, do you think you are more prepared because you have the protocols in place?
It’s exactly what it was, protocols, we had protocol’s coming out of our ears! There was a protocol for everything, and we had to work on those protocols, tweak those protocols, review and edit, then launch the activity and then possibly re-edit the protocol if it wasn’t working. So, there was has been a flurry of protocol development, but this has slowed down now as we have looked at pretty much every activity we do, finally, so if we do go back into lockdown again or into another surge, we have a lot that is ready, I’m pretty confident about that, as we had to examine pretty much everything.
What about the health of the health workers themselves?
Having said that we would be ready, every situation still has its own uniqueness about it and even though we are easing out of lockdown, that is very complicated because who is at risk becomes much less defined, but there is still that work, constantly, constantly reviewing what we are doing.
You and Tim wrote that paper on the risks of COVID and clotting and I was wondering how that came about?
It was remarkable, I ended up being the consultant on the wards at the peak of the epidemic in Brighton so we had the most cases that week and I had been off for a couple of weeks before that, so I hadn’t seen cases before then suddenly came in at the peak of the epidemic. I think I would say it took 24 hours, either the first or the second day, for me to realise this was like no other infection I had seen before, it was something completely different and what was remarkable is that so many people had blood clots and I hadn’t seen that in the literature or in the reports from China or Italy. So, I wasn’t expecting it and the more I tested patients for clots, the more I could see. If you didn’t look for it, then you would miss it. But the more you looked, the more you found.
At the same time I spoke to Tim Corbett, who is a Haematologist and Intensive Care Consultant, Barbara Philipps, and they had also both noticed the same things and we got together and discussed it and decided we needed to set up a clinical trial to work out how best to treat these patients and also worked on gathering data with our data set which we then published to look at the frequency of clots and to look at the characteristics of patients with clots.
So it was partly the clinician head looking this is like nothing we had ever seen and the academic head thinking we must report this because I haven’t seen this in the literature and we clearly need to know about it. At the same time, other people were recognising this and now there is a body of evidence on it but to me I think it’s not yet fully explored. I think a lot of the pathology due to Covid, a significant proportion could be due to micro embolisms in different body compartments not just in the lungs I think there is definitely more to look at there.
Do you think you will be changing the focus of your research going forward as a consequence of this pandemic?
I think COVID work is essential and really important we do it, but I don’t think it’s going to determine what I do in the future because other global health themes are still really important and the background of collaborations and work that we have so I think some things that may change are the way that I do my work and we have to fold in that pandemics like this can occur. Considering also the social, it’s shown us very clearly how an infectious disease can impact on every aspect of people’s lives, socio economic so folding in a more broader picture impact of a disease on people’s health is very important. I think we all have the responsibility to research COVID as it’s happening now, and we have to contribute to the research, but I’m still really interested in women’s global health and general infectious diseases research.
Building on that theme, it became apparent in the UK that people who have the highest mortality rate are those from certain BAME backgrounds obviously because of health reasons but there was also talk of other reasons this was more along the gender lines, like men were generally more affected than women. I know you are interested in the gender perspective of things and also on your work around your commitment to Black Lives Matter and issues around racism and how do you tie it all together during a pandemic? How do you keep perspective of this bigger picture which is socio economic pandemic with the rise of an infectious disease?
Well I think the first thing would be that what this highlight is that we didn’t realise that black and Asian minority ethnic people may be more likely to die from COVID, this wasn’t picked up until quite late. Probably because in China there is less diversity and also in Italy maybe and also because it’s not being measured, a lot of the systems don’t collect ethnicity data in a lot of data sets so there is no signal to recognise that something is impacting a certain ethnicity more. So that’s a structural issue because if people in those groups are disadvantaged we will never know about it because our broad data collection systems don’t even collect it so that reinforces that inequality therefore because it’s not even looked at.
We have that issue with women’s health because there is lots of research that is not disaggregated by gender. People don’t realise that a drug works differently in women to men because the data is not looked at with regards to gender. For example, less than 20% of HIV drug trial participants are women meaning that women with HIV are taking drugs that have not necessarily been tested enough on women to know their safety in the female body. There is this issue, before research and any work is done, we need to think about how we are structuring it so what I would say in response is intersectionality is very important and we need to look at all the aspects that make people diverse and make sure that the way we design our work and the way we design our data collection and the way we design our analysis takes that into account so that we can pick up if there any people who are doing badly with intervention or with this disease or with this epidemiology and that we can pick that up where if the people who are designing this work are from a specific sector which may be white, male, privileged then that’s the lens they are using to do their work. For the women, yes, there are definitely fewer women dying from COVID. Women do get COVID and there are is a lot of morbidity associated with COVID, not just mortality, but in those that survive it there is lots of ongoing consequences and complications of it and we also need to start looking now at whether women are more or less likely to have long term complications from it and what they are and if they are same as in men and in women and the same as with other intersectionality and different ethnicity groups.
On a more personal level, you have young kids, it’s been Spring, is there anything that you have time to do outside work?
My kids have been at school as I’m a key worker and they were the only kids at the school as I’m on the only key worker at the school which was strange for them. I’ve had an allotment since January, so I’ve been trying to escape to the allotment during this pandemic and the weather has been great, so I’ve been bringing lots of fresh produce home. I’ve grown lots of greens, radishes, lettuces, Kale, chard, cucumbers, peppers, carrots, cooker lemons, herbs, tomatoes, beetroots, beans and some raspberries, gooseberries, blackcurrants. It’s been a meditation, sowing seeds, tending to them and weeding. We just got chickens too.